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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Mohammed was a child molesting cunt
2008-05-03 23:39:16 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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‹(•¿•)› Shoot shitskin muhammadans in the face
2008-05-05 05:09:26 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 03:28:37 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud


Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.


O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.


Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."


Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. ...

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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-05 05:08:55 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-05 23:41:02 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 03:27:51 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 09:50:47 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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***@mweb.co.za
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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Gunny Khan
2008-05-05 10:03:26 UTC
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he role of iron in sea water to store carbon dioxide

The 2004 EIFEX experiment reported a carbon dioxide to iron
fixation ratio of nearly 300,000 to 1.

Advocates say that using this technique to restore ocean plankton to
recent known levels of health would help solve half the climate change
problem, revive major fisheries and cetacean populations, and
alleviate several other urgent ocean crises

About 70% of the world's surface is covered in oceans, and the upper
part of these (where light can penetrate) is inhabited by algae. In
some oceans, the growth and/or reproduction of these algae is limited
by the amount of iron in the seawater. Iron is a vital micronutrient
for phytoplankton growth and photosynthesis that has historically been
delivered to the pelagic sea by wind-driven dust storms from arid
lands. This Aeolian dust contains 3~5% iron and its deposition has
fallen nearly 25% in recent decades[16] due to modern changes in land
use and agricultural practices as well as increased greening of dry
regions thanks to increasing levels of atmospheric CO2. (Arid zone
grasses and vegetation now lose less water vapor through their stomata
to absorb the same amount of carbon dioxide, and thus stay greener
longer, reducing dust storm frequency and the amount of iron reaching
the deep seas. Increasing sand desertification does little to
compensate for this shortfall since sand is primarily silica with
relatively low iron content.)

The Redfield ratio describes the relative atomic concentrations of
critical nutrients in plankton biomass and is conventionally written
"106 C: 16 N: 1 P." This expresses the fact that one atom of
phosphorus and 16 of nitrogen are required to "fix" 106 carbon atoms
(or 106 molecules of CO2). Recent research has expanded this constant
to "106 C: 16 N: 1 P: .001 Fe" signifying that in iron deficient
conditions each atom of iron can fix 106,000 atoms of carbon[17], or
on a mass basis, each kilogram of iron can fix 83,000 kg of carbon
dioxide. The 2004 EIFEX experiment reported a carbon dioxide to iron
fixation ratio of nearly 300,000 to 1. Assuming that data is on a mass
basis, then the normalized atomic ratio would be approximately:
"380,000 C: 58,000 N: 3,600 P: 1 Fe".

In "desolate" HNLC zones, therefore, small amounts of iron (measured
by mass parts per trillion) delivered either by the wind or a planned
restoration program can trigger large responsive phytoplankton blooms.
Recent marine trials suggest that one kilogram of fine iron particles
may generate well over 100,000 kilograms of plankton biomass. The size
of the iron particles is critical, however, and particles of 0.5~1
micrometre or less seem to be ideal both in terms of sink rate and
bioavailability. Particles this small are not only easier for
cyanobacteria and other phytoplankton to incorporate, the churning of
surface waters keeps them in the euphotic or sunlit biologically
active depths without sinking for long periods of time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization
Ramabriga
2008-05-06 10:07:24 UTC
Permalink
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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***@mweb.co.za
***@lantic.co.za
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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
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/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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This is confirmation of yet another shitskin moslems post cancelled by the Yakoo Warrior!! - take a look at the email addy to see which shitskin's post was canceled.
2008-05-06 10:07:30 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Charlie.Sadadeen
2008-05-05 10:30:26 UTC
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Why im not a christian or a jew

Q fever

sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet , the man who planned to kill off Asians
with disease and destroy their foods crops sure was a very busy boy
food

As was his mate Sir Markus Oliphant

if they were muslims or asians they would both have been hung as
terrorists

nobel prize http://nobelprizes.com/nobel/medicine/1960a.html

first australian of the year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Macfarlane_Burnet
List of Australian of the Year Award recipients
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

The following is a list of the recipients of the Australian of the
Year award.[1]
Year of award Name Life Comments
1960 Sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet OM AK KBE 1899-1985
virologist;
1960 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine

bio terrorist ?? that should have been hung as a terrorist , thats
why christians honored him with so many awards

Burnet's solution: The plan to poison S-E Asia

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/03/09/1015365752044.html

By Brendan Nicholson
Poltical Correspondent
March 10 2002

World-famous microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet, the Nobel prize
winner revered as Australia's greatest medical research scientist,
secretly urged the government to develop biological weapons for use
against Indonesia and other "overpopulated" countries of South-East
Asia.

The revelation is contained in top-secret files declassified by the
National Archives of Australia, despite resistance from the Department
of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Q fever is a disease caused by infection with Coxiella burnetii, [ in
his honor ] a bacterium that affects both humans and animals.

This organism is uncommon but may be found in cattle, sheep, goats
and other domestic mammals, including cats and dogs. The infection
results from inhalation of contaminated particles in the air, and from
contact with the vaginal mucus, milk, feces, urine or semen of
infected animals. The incubation period is 9-40 days. It is considered
possibly the most infectious disease in the world, as a human being
can be infected by a single bacterium.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_fever
Contents
[hide]

* 1 History
* 2 Manifestations
* 3 Appearance and incidence
* 4 Diagnosis
* 5 Treatment
* 6 Prevention
* 7 Biological warfare
* 8 References

[edit] History
Image A: A normal chest X-ray. Image B: Q fever pneumonia.
Image A: A normal chest X-ray. Image B: Q fever pneumonia.

It was first desc ribed by Edward Holbrook Derrick in abattoir workers
in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. The "Q" stands for "query" and was
applied historically at a time when the causative agent was unknown.

The pathogen of Q fever was discovered in 1937, when Frank Macfarlane
Burnet and Mavis Freeman isolated the bacterium from one of Derrick's
patients.[citation needed]

It was originally identified as a species of Rickettsia. H.R. Cox and
Davis isolated it from ticks in Montana, USA in 1938, and called it
Rickettsia diasporica.[citation needed] R. diasporica was considered
non-pathogenic until laboratory investigators were infected;[citation
needed] it was officially renamed Coxiella burnetii the same year. It
is a zoonotic disease whose most common animal reservoirs are cattle,
sheep and goats. Coxiella burnetii is no longer regarded as closely
related to Rickettsiae.

[edit] Manifestations

Incubation period is usually 2 to 3 weeks. The most common
manifestation is flu-like symptoms with abrupt onset of fever,
malaise, profuse perspiration, severe headache, myalgia (muscle pain),
joint pain, loss of appetite, upper respiratory problems, dry cough,
pleuritic pain, chills, confusion and gastro-intestinal symptoms such
as nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. The fever lasts approximately 7 to
14 days.

During the course, the disease can progress to an atypical pneumonia,
which can result in a life threatening acute respiratory distress
syndrome (ARDS), whereby such symptoms usually occur during the first
4 to 5 days of infection.

Less often the Q fever causes (granulomatous) hepatitis which becomes
symptomatic with malaise, fever, liver enlargement (hepatomegaly),
pain in the right upper quadrant of the abdomen and jaundice
(icterus). Retinal vasculitis is a rare manifestation of Q fever.[2]

The chronic form of Q fever is virtually identical to inflammation of
the inner lining of the heart (endocarditis), which can occur months
or decades following the infection. It is usually deadly if untreated.
However, with appropriate treatment the mortality falls to around 10%.
=============================================================
Another terrorist ???

Mark Oliphant master bomb maker held up as national hero

Marcus Laurence Elwin Oliphant
Marcus Laurence Elwin Oliphant
Born October 8, 1901(1901-10-08)
Kent Town, Adelaide, Australia
Died July 14, 2000 (aged 98)
Canberra, Australia
Residence Australia
UK
U.S.
Nationality Australian

Notable awards Hughes Medal (1943)

Sir Marcus 'Mark' Laurence Elwin Oliphant AC KBE (October 8, 1901 -
July 14, 2000) was an Australian physicist and humanitarian who played
a fundamental role in the first experimental demonstration of nuclear
fusion, and later, in the development of the atomic bomb.

During retirement he was appointed state governor of South Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga

British nuclear tests at Maralinga
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Maralinga Atomic Test Site

Map showing nuclear test sites in Australia
Type Nuclear test range
Location [show location on an interactive map] 30°10′S,
131°37′E in
Australia
Operator United Kingdom
Status Inactive
In use 1955 - 1963
Remediation
status Completed in 2000
Testing
Subcritical
tests 700
Nuclear
tests 7

British nuclear tests at Maralinga occurred between 1955 and 1963 at
the Maralinga site, part of the Woomera Prohibited Area, in South
Australia. A total of seven major nuclear tests were performed, with
approximate yields ranging from 1 to 27 kilotons. The site was also
used for hundreds of minor trials, many of which were intended to
investigate the effects of fire or non-nuclear explosions on atomic
weapons.

The site was contaminated with radioactive materials and an initial
cleanup was attempted in 1967. The McClelland Royal Commission into
the tests delivered its report in 1985, and found that significant
radiation hazards still existed at many of the Maralinga test areas.
It recommended another cleanup, which was completed in 2000 at a cost
of $108 million. Debate continued over the safety of the site and the
long-term health effects on the traditional Aboriginal owners of the
land and former personnel.
Ramabriga
2008-05-07 14:21:31 UTC
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This is confirmation of yet another shitskin moslems post cancelled by
the Yakoo Warrior!! - take a look at the email addy to see which
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was
published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp,
practice thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all
those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
--
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
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\ (
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 18:08:54 UTC
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Aviroce
2008-05-06 20:15:52 UTC
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You sons of bitches, Ramabriga could not have posted this. I have an
article he posted on Islam. You fake bastards keep away from this
poster.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPo...
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
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Aviroce
2008-05-09 01:57:40 UTC
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Mohammad is a son of bitch,
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 03:29:14 UTC
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 10:42:46 UTC
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-06 10:42:51 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-07 08:49:34 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-07 08:49:39 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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